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	by smartcookie36 233 Posts 9/21/2009 10:07 PM thanks for your post :) im learning (its hard, but im trying) - that these people see who they WANT to see in the mirror, not the truth. we can't educate those who don't want to be educated... all the posts and self help books and introspection didnt help as much as my therapist quoting my particular psychopath's thought process verbatim - and how sick and twisted it is. but like the book im trying to read at the moment - we should not be in their heads, we should be in our OWN heads... taking care of US. take care :)

	by MarriagesThatWork 42 Posts 8/26/2009 8:21 AM Thanks tete I have heard about this " Not just friends" what can you tell me about it? And we have recommended After The Affair. I am very sorry to hear about the weakness of your former spouse - I have seen many couples work through very awful things but they both have to put in the effort

	by BlueB 3117 Posts 6/1/2009 2:50 PM Anytime :) I know it's hard to see things from a different perspective when yours is one of pain and suffering, especially for your kids, who didn't ask for any of this. It's very easy to let the anger and pain take over the thought processes, and I'm glad that you strive to be better than that. I think we all do...but some days are more of a struggle than others. I hope things get better for you soon. hugs ya

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