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here's my story...

Been married for 18 years, have two kids under 12, and 2 dogs.  Husband and I moved 8 years ago, and it seems to me that he has been unhappy since.  He has no friends here.  I have lots of friends.  He is not as outgoing as I am.  Where we lived prior to this our complete social life consisted of his family and his one friend.  He is a cranky person.  The kids don't even want to go in the room where he is sometimes and they tell me so.  He is not a very hard worker.  No desire to do better for his family.  I earn more than he does, carry the insurance, have all the benefits.  I pay the bills, clean the house, remember everything.  He has a poor memory.  And won't write things down.  I guess it sounds like I am angry.  I know I am.  I just want someone to share the responsibilities with me 50/50.  Is that such a big deal?   Anyway I told him this.  He wants to go to counseling and thinks I communicate badly.  I probably do!! I don't even want to go.  So what if I communicate if he can't remember what I say or ask?  I have sent him to the MD twice, thinking these were signs of depression.  Nope.  Not the case.  I think I have made up my mind but don't know how to tell him.  He is the father of our children, and I am mostly worried about the kids and how they will react to this.  They go to catholic school, we are a catholic family, and I feel like failure.  The little things are really starting to get to me.  I don't even want to be around him and to top it off he follows me everywhere and wants to know where I am going even when I step out the door to check on the kids!!!  I feel smothered.  He says he is embarassed by me because I am "wild" but he will not define "wild" .  I am not happy with im because he does not like my family, he yells at the kids, and he is rude to my friends sometimes.  So I guess I am looking for some opinions here.  Is it worth going to counseling?  I have gone before, by myself because he didn't think he needed to go.  This time he is asking for the counseling together. 

by jowi 
Posted on 4/24/2008 8:33 AM    
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I look it up, I don't think he is a narcissist.  I think he is jealous , insecure, and somewhat lazy.  He does not have the image of himself that the definition suggests.  I have overht eyears encouraged him to go out, invite people over, make friends,  join groups and clubs.  He doesn't even like going with me to my work Christmas party.  "non of those peple are my friends"  well that's because he only has 1.  I am so frustrated I have eczema!!!
by jowi  22 Posts
Posted on 4/25/2008 7:10 AM
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Hi,
I have a suggestion. Look up Narcissism and see it it fits your husband. If it seems to fit research it  some more. If you are positive that is what he seems to be; do what the books suggest. Leave as fast as you can and don't go back.

I lived with one for 33 years before I finally figured out what he was. I was also always a tad bit angry because I was over worked and stressed. He is a passive agressive narcissist. What you are describing sounds terribly familiar. I hope I am wrong.
by trisha9054  381 Posts
Posted on 4/24/2008 11:08 PM
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Err...I missed a couple of words:

Don't you just get so annoyed with the comments regarding not following through with something come back to you as it was your fault some how that he didn't do what he said he would?

By the way...if you feel like I do, my thoughts are that if he is not willing to call because you are looking up things for yourself, the least he could have done is tell you what he is feeling at that time...and ask if he could be included in what you are looking at and discuss whether counseling would still be an option.

Guess I'm just letting you know that I know what you are feeling and you are not alone in feeling this way!  It is tough...
by Aimless  128 Posts
Posted on 4/24/2008 2:22 PM
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My goodness - could our husband's be long lost twins?  LOL  They certainly sound quite a bit alike!!!

It sounds like you have tried and don't those little excuses of "well, this is what you did so I didn't do what I said I would and didn't actually tell you or ask you if you still wanted to do what we originally said"?

Don't you get to a point of knowing the exact words that will come out of his mouth if you bring up something that he hasn't completed?  I know I do, and I hate to say that, but it is the truth.

The first time I asked a week after I gave my husband the counselor's number if he set up the appointment by chance, he said EXACTLY what I knew he'd say - I even told a friend before I left work that day what his first excuse was going to be...and what the 2nd excuse would be, too, and it is so sad that I was actually right.

I work all day...I forgot the number on my desk...I don't know what to say...I don't know what days or hours he is willing to do...why can't you do it?  I have such a hard time remembering things and have always counted on you to help me remember things (too bad that one always comes back as me nagging and harping)...I don't know why I have to do it because you got the number from your therapist...

On and on it goes...

If he won't set up an appointment or go WITH you to a counseling session, walk away with your head held high!  I would still see a counselor yourself - at least to get you through the YOUR feelings and to help yourself get to a place of happiness and peace.
by Aimless  128 Posts
Posted on 4/24/2008 2:17 PM
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He didn't set anything up.  He started in January saying he would set up an appt.  Never did.  Then said because I was going online to help myself ( I got some information on how to communicate better etc.) that's why he never did it.  I made the appt this time. 

I have supported him through 2 years of not having a steady paycheck, but sticking with the same job anyway.  Several other jobs that had his paychecks bounce.  Wanting this and that to start his own business.  Never finishing things.  (Big things, house things)  He always wants to start something new and thinks I am being bossy or a nag when I don't want him to until he finished what he has started. 

Thanks for your support and information on this.  I ppreciate it!
by jowi  22 Posts
Posted on 4/24/2008 2:06 PM
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I think if he is willing to set up the counseling appointment, at least give it a shot, but hey, I'm just an outsider that could be saying almost the EXACT same words as you.

I have the same issues with my husband and have always tried to support him (even the not writing things down for appointments he makes is like my husband), and finally when I gave an ultimatum because I know we BOTH were poor at communicating with each other and had verbal/physical abuse towards each other, he said he was willing to go to counseling.

I gave him a referall number and said, "If you are serious about going to counseling with me, I got the number and I need you to set up the appointment.  If you are serious about fixing our marriage, you need to make this happen."

Gee, now we are going on week 3 of no phone call to set up an appointment, so I guess I can see just how much effort he really wants to put into it.

I would give your husband the same option - at least if HE doesn't try, then you can honestly say that YOU are not a failure.  Couple's counseling may not work, even if you both go, but at least try and then you can say that you gave it your best shot.

Just my opinion but you will have to make the decision in the end and it's something only you can do.
by Aimless  128 Posts
Posted on 4/24/2008 10:07 AM
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