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The man can't even lie well.

I wonder how I married this man some 28 years ago.  His calls to the OW stopped showing up on our cell bills and I just figured they were emailing or texting.  Tonight I saw his cell on the kitchen counter -- then walked into the den and there is another cell charging on the floor.  I said "So you have another cell phone?" He said "NO" - then I said "So why is there one charging on the floor, and who is paying for it."  It is always so nice to surprise him and catch  him in lies because he simply can't think of an answer.  After waiting about four minutes he says "a friend" gave it to him to use for business.  I said  "Yeah I believe that."  Then he tells me that it's so that they can talk privately.  I asked who is paying for it ---- no answer.  He says it's from his friend NED -- let me say that he and NED work for the same company.  I just can't get by this deceit.  I know he's been cashing freelance checks and going out a lot.  He keeps bringing home things he's bought and there's no way he didn't pay cash.  Yet we are on a budget set by the Lawyers and he goes way over that each week with what is showing up here.  I just want to wring his neck.  How can people be so evil -- he acts like he's some saint to everyone and yet he is so dirty and underhanded.  I know he just thinks he'll wear me down until I walk away with nothing.  He makes four times what I do and doesn't think I deserve anything.  I think I need to get a hold of my counselor tomorrow or I may have a nervous breakdown.  We are supposedly doing a collaborative divorce where things are open and honest.  My attorney proceeds as if he is telling the truth to keep things in "the spirit of collaboration" which makes this all a farce.  I just don't know what to do anymore.  This has been dragging out over 14 months and $25 thousand dollars.  God I need some help from someone.  I feel at the end of what I can take. 

by scared27years   283 Posts 
Posted on 3/2/2009 1:07 AM
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Hey Spaz -- I hear you I really do.  That's one reason I'm going to my counselor.  I told my lawyer the last time that he needed to shit or get off the pot.  That maybe we just needed to fire the two of them and go to court and let the judge decide.  I'll let you know how this resolves itself.  I am making him another proposal after talking to my counselor on Thursday.  Thanks for the interest and thanks for the advice.  I know I need to advocate for myself - it's just scary.
by scared27years   283 Posts
Posted on 3/2/2009 8:53 PM
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scared - I really think you need to consider ending this collaborative divorce choice - you aren't getting anywhere except down. He's walking all over you...

 

Next time you see the cell phone on the floor don't ASK him to see it - just take the damn thing and look at it - once you find out it is from her put it in the toilet and tell him where he can find it.

stop being a doormat he wipes his feet on.

Sometimes words like "in the spirit of collaberation" need to change to "kiss my ass"...

by spaznskitz   7745 Posts
Posted on 3/2/2009 8:08 PM
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Thank you Deborah, Trisha, and Timeless.  I so appreciate the support.  You all make me feel that I am not alone in this insanity or a situation.  I think I got three hours of sleep last night.  I called my counselor at 2 AM and left a message - she can't see me until Thursday but at least I know I have a place to go now.  And yes I am documenting things.  His smugness just blows me away - and you are right Timeless -- he just doesn't care what he is doing ... as he has said to me before he is living his own life.  I did ask him this morning if I could look at the cell phone to see that it was really for business ... he said no -- so I know he was lying last night.  I was off today -- an Illinois only holiday - so at least I didn't have to go and teach my rug rats when I was so tired.  Thank you so much -- I feel the support and I do feel better now.  Mel
by scared27years   283 Posts
Posted on 3/2/2009 7:57 PM
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Oh I know exactly where you're at.   What helped me really understand the distance of it all was when I was told by many that it was due to the fact that one party has had considerably more time to "move on" because of their affair.  The emotional distance the cheating spouse has acquired allows them to move ahead with their life and make decisions that have nothing to do with the marriage.   Essentially they checked out of the marriage long before you even knew the end was near.   

 

So what you cannot make sense of is the fact that he is now operating from a very one sided perspective.    He has moved on and is no longer married so he feels little obligation to act considerate or with respect because he feels no tie to your marriage or you as a couple.   He is able to spend freely, accept cell phone gifts (and anything else you may not know about) and not feel compelled to even lie well since he doesn't feel it warrants the effort.

 

Trust me, once the financial aspect of the divorce is settled and you can then begin to design your own life and know the answers to things like where you will live, how much you will have to live on, etc.     Having these answers will give you a nice distance from the raw emotions and connection to your marriage.     

 

A good counselor and a top attorney will get you to the end in one piece. Hang in there.

by timless   781 Posts
Posted on 3/2/2009 3:01 PM
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Mine would tell lies that an 8 year old little boy would tell. Then he would expect me to believe them just because he said them. They weren't even good lies. If you're going to lie at least try to make them believable.
by trisha9054   4967 Posts
Posted on 3/2/2009 12:27 PM
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well, your spouse sounds like mine used to be...oh my gosh, he was soooooo sneaky. Could never give me an answer, and when he did, it was a terrible lie. Even with the other woman mailing love letters to our address, leaving voice messages on his business phone, calling and hanging up 10 times in a row, he STILL made me feel like I was crazy, that I was just imagining that there was another woman. What kinds of things is he bringing home? Could they possibly be things that can still be split in the divorce? Even with what he is bringing, can't those things still be considered marriage property?  Have you thought about taking pictures of these things to show your attorney? How about documenting things on a calender also.  I hope things get better for you.
by deborah-trevino   1099 Posts
Posted on 3/2/2009 7:47 AM
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