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lets call her the mean one.  

my father had a heart attack this weekend, and ignored it.  he powered through, as he explained.  

 

he's not new to heart attack land.  ten years ago he had a massive heart attack and then six bypasses.  this year alone he's had two surgeries to replace two of the bypasses.  that was just two months ago.  and then this weekend, while experiencing chest pains again, he felt he could 'walk it off'.   he didn't' tell anyone.  

 

yesterday my son was sick and i woke up to a flooded kitchen.  i called him to see if he could come and sit with my son and wait for the repairman as well.   but he was in the ER.  

 

apparently my mother convinced him to go.  they stopped for gas on the way there because my mother doesn't know how to fill a gas tank and my father was worried that if he didn't leave the hospital, she would be helpless.  so, he drove himself to the gas station, showed her how to fill up the gas, and then drove on to the ER.  where he was admitted and had surgery.  

 

meanwhile, i scurried around.  sent both kids to school, even though one was sick, drove to work, worked for an hour, waited for the repair shop to open and begged them to come to my house right now.  they agreed.  drove home, met the repair guy and asked a girlfriend to come over and sit with him while i went to the hospital.  sat in the hospital for hours and then left to go pick up my kids.  

 

pretty much did the same this morning.   meanwhile, i made the calls to my sisters....the sisters who are not talking to me now because i couldn't attend a family function this past weekend because my loser ex decided he couldn't watch the kids. 

 

word on the street is that they don't believe me.  they don't believe that my ex wouldn't work with me and take his kids for the weekend so that i could attend this event.   also turns out that they don't believe that he doesn't pay child support, or that he doesn't call his kids or that he's basically a loser.  

 

i don't know why they don't believe these things.  maybe because it's hard to believe that a father could do that to his children.  

 

anyway, i made the calls to let them know that our father was in the hospital and had had a heart attack.  one sister was good. let's call her the nice one. asked questions, wanted details and then the conversation derailed into this...  

 

'well, you're going to have to do it now paula.  you're going to have to finally face facts that he can no longer take care of your kids for you. you're going to have to make alternative plans and hire a nanny.'  

 

the other sister never called me back. she didn't call anyone in the family and didn't call the hospital room to talk to my father. nothing.  lets call her the mean one.  

 

so last night while i paced the patio i thought about all of this.  i'm not foolish...my father is not healthy.  my parents have been picking my kids up from school at 3 and taking care of them until i get home at 6, for four years.  i know i'm lucky.  i know my kids are lucky.   and i know that this arrangement probably has to stop now. 

 

i also know my ex doesn't even enter into the situation here...and that's sad, odd and reality.  he firmly believes that since i have physical custody (and we share joint custody), that that means the kids are my responsibility 100% of the time.  it's odd when you get to the point where emergency situations happen and your ex is not even on the call list.  it's odder when you have to make major decisions about your children and their own father isn't consulted because he won't care.  odd stuff.

 

my fathers cardiologists says that he should keep taking care of the kids...plus.  he needs to do more actually. he needs to exercise more and eat right and play with the kids and stay active.  

 

my father says that he would die if he couldn't care for his grandchildren. that it brings him joy and he wouldn't have a thing to do if he didn't see them all the time.  

 

my sisters don't believe the cardiologist either.  the nice sister says that she doesn't care what the dr has to say, the ultimate decision is mine.  that his health is compromised and the stress of caring for two little kids is too much.  

 

the mean sister says that i have put my children's lives at risk and that my father will have a massive heart attack while driving them from school and all three will die and everyone will know it was my fault.  (harsh, i know).  

 

if i hire a nanny to care for my kids, my father will show up anyway.  he has admitted he will and he's not lying.   my sisters admit that this will happen as well, and say that's his choice...but at least he won't have the heavy burden and responsibility of caring for them daily.

 

so, i'm obviously too close to this situation to see clearly.  i would love your input.   what to do?

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Posted on 12/17/2008 10:25 AM
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As a cardiac nurse, If he wants to watch the kids and you're comfortable with that , and the doctors agree by all means let him continue. It gives him a good quality of life which to me is more of an issue than longevity.

As a hardass (that's what my sister says) If you know the decision is right.......who cares what everybody else thinks!
by sweetrose   62 Posts
Posted on 1/2/2009 2:35 PM
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Having worked cardiology for years the worse thing you can do right now is not letting your father take care of your children. Depression is something that happens when patients see others as not trusting their abilities to do things. have a back up plan in case something would happen.
Let your children enjoy their grandfather. As for the sisters sounds like they don't know what is best for their father.

by sjg   1772 Posts
Posted on 12/18/2008 2:31 PM
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the heck with your sisters. I love Spaznick's advice. It doesn't get better than that.  It will keep your parents young. My mom could not walk a mile but once my little girl was in school she was up to 2 miles. She lost weight and felt energized. Consequently her blood pressure went down and her cholesterol level, not to mention her weight :-) Good luck to you.
by vlady   2123 Posts
Posted on 12/18/2008 2:25 PM
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i may just have to send this little blog over to the two sisters.  thank you everyone!
by paula1   12663 Posts
Posted on 12/18/2008 2:14 PM
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My father has had three heart attacks - he's had surgery twice - know what his doctor finally convinced him to do after the 3rd heart attack? Get a gym membership.

My dad changed his diet, started working out three times a week and now he's healthier than I am, and he is 75 years old. He chases after my little kids to the point it exhausts me to watch them play.

My husband is a cardiothoracic surgeon - he is my father's doctor - his advice - Grandkids are holistic therapy...keep doing what you are doing - the stress of not seeing the kids will make him worse, not better.

If there is a concern about him driving, then yes, work on an alternative as far as pick up and drop off - but that has a slim possibility of happening & you can ALWAYS teach your children what to do to pull a car over and stop it if they are ever in that type of situation.
by spaznskitz   7745 Posts
Posted on 12/18/2008 2:08 PM
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These are great lessons for your children to read and learn from. Your sisters obviously need an update in this area. They will develop a better understanding of human beings. That does not mean we will like what the persons choices are but we will develop a different view and consider theirs before reacting.  

You are the one in control and living your life and no one else can take that away from you. Walking in someone else’s shoes way of looking at life...

It's a win win for your dad and the kids. They will all build great memories spending time together. Some of my daughter’s best memories are due to spending time with my mom. The kids will learn so much from him and he will gain the inner happiness and physically stay active as suggested by his doctor. I think this is beautiful and I am glad your parents want to be involved.

This seems like a wonderful place for your children to spend time.

by lgoodgal   1036 Posts
Posted on 12/18/2008 11:16 AM
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1st and foremost prayers are with your dad and family as he struggles with this major health issue.

Regarding everything else. My goodness - I am sorry for your sisters not understanding and being there for you, as she should. It's amazing how little control we have over anyone else but ourselves. They are behaving like grade school children who are not aware how much they are hurting you. To not talk with you because of a function is absolutely ridiculous, callous, and self centered on their part.

 

I grew up learning the Indian adage about Walking in someone else’s shoes. Check out this link: http://www.lifetime.org/open-doors-closed-doors-w-121.html and this one http://ruweary2.blogspot.com/2007/10/walk-mile-in-his-moccasins.html These lessons have helped me step back and pretend to be someone else for a moment walking in their shoes before I respond. I do see the difference in my actions when I don’t do this. In schools a teacher might use the book To Kill a Mockingbird, Atticus explains to Scout that "You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view...until you climb into his skin and walk around in it". This is a teacher’s link but it pertains and might be helpful you’re your own children. Let them know about the Indian adage as well if you like it. http://web.gc.cuny.edu/dept/case/lsc/Curricula/revised%20projects%2005/bridging%20the%20generationa

by lgoodgal   1036 Posts
Posted on 12/18/2008 11:14 AM
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well, you could always find someone from school like another parent to bring them from school so that your dad or mom doesn't have to drive  to pick them up and then let the kids stay with your parents but have a back-up person, a nanny or someone that can step in when you need them. This must be someone that you would be comfortable with and that your kids can get to know, that way if you have an emergency, you will at least be covered. I think that if my dad felt like watching my  kids, I would let him, but having a back-up person would be helpful for the times you need them. What about another parent from your children's friends?  That has worked for me in the past when I needed an extra hand. And as far as the sisters are concerned, they are not living your life and shouldn't be throwing ugly stuff at you. I am so sorry to hear you are having to go through this.  I wish you the best.
by deborah-trevino   1099 Posts
Posted on 12/18/2008 8:37 AM
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Paula I was in and out so much yesterday I missed this. First I'm sorry about your father having another heart attack. And everyone has a lot of great things to say.

I agree with DJPO. I have never had grandparents in my life from either side of my family. I don't even know their names. If your father feels up to it let him do what he wants. Your children will have a much greater sense of family and what it should be about.

He needs to stay active. I've seen too many older people who quit on life and had nothing to look forward too and they gave up and died way too early. My dad was one of those people and then my mother too. So he needs your chldren as much as you need his help.

So, yes let him continue to take care of your children as long as he feels able. Your children are getting older and will be able to help him stay active.
by trisha9054   4967 Posts
Posted on 12/18/2008 8:31 AM
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If your father and mother are willing, you are the one to decide if the physically can, let them.  My grandma who was once told that she would never walk out of the hospital because of her heart, could walk out your father can as well.  The sisters have to get a clue, family and parents aren't talking points.  Obviously your dad loves the kids and his wife and you mom.  He sounds like my dad, even though were on the way to the hospital, let me make sure you have a full tank of gas.  Love like that is so great.  The good one and the evil one need to grow up, doesn't matter how old they are High School is over.  Prayers for you and your Parents are going out, hope you don't mind.
by Jamesalone   2778 Posts
Posted on 12/18/2008 12:25 AM
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I know in my situation, I live with my parents and have my kids alternating weekends (yadda yadda yadda).  Because I have to work on the weekends, my parents are with my kids. They LOVE it! 

I think the grandkids keep grandparents young.  Don't listen to your sisters.  My gosh, they couldn't even be there when their father needed them.  I'd suggest that from now on, just inform them of what is going on, and hang up.  You have way too much stress in your life to deal with those two.  They remind me of Cinderella's stepsisters.....
by Dactyl   2607 Posts
Posted on 12/18/2008 12:03 AM
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Hmmm ok I have to interject here since alot of what I read  sounds similar to what I have been subject to minus the kids. Ok Paula for one if they love him so much how come they did not marry him. I have taken the same ridicul from my family maybe harsher but the same. Look why don't you just be up front with your 2 sister and tell them to kiss your pretty white azz and be done with it. But you being passive aggresive in nature you won't but you should and be done with it. Now that works you know as well as me that sibblings can cut worse than anybody else. For one may be letting them know that you don't give a chit about cirtic od you and how you handle things but to just shut the hell up it really helps. If I would have listen to my sibblings hell I still be getting told what I needed to be doing and I would not be here. Paula you know your father and you are close to him. If he gets happiness from your kids so be it. Tell your sister that if she wants to pay for a nanny so be it or STFU you really don't want to hear it. Yeah they will stay mad at you for a while but hell is it any worst than having to listen to their I know better babble or you need to do this or you need to do that. Look sit down with your 2 kids and explain to them about their grand father and I am sure they will watch over him that way you take the worry of your father off your mind. Listen to the doctor and your dad he does have a right to be happy. Now about your X paula he is a waste of time let him go or look at it this way how do you help stupid.
by Gomezz   734 Posts
Posted on 12/17/2008 4:08 PM
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Paula, being a grandfather and knowing how much I enjoy the time with my grandson, I would be devistated if my daughter did not want me to spend time with him.
I am sure your father gets tremendous enjoyment from being with his grandchildren.
by canary1922   355 Posts
Posted on 12/17/2008 2:41 PM
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I would also say when looking for a nanny, consider a retired nurse? Medical experience plus care for the kids.
by delia_M   2861 Posts
Posted on 12/17/2008 2:24 PM
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Hire the nanny. Let your father enjoy spending time with his grand kids and consider the nanny as help to shoulder any burden it might place on his health. It won't hurt the kids to have both there, for sure. Plus you get the comfort of knowing your dad is still a large part of your kids' lives, and the nanny is there 'just in case'.
by delia_M   2861 Posts
Posted on 12/17/2008 2:24 PM
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I use to clean houses and the majority of my clients were elderly.  I was always trying to do extra stuff so they wouldn't have to do it.  I don't know how many times I heard "I'm not an invalid, and when you don't let me do what I know I can do you make me feel like one."  I expect your Dad is the same.  I'm sure he knows his limits, and with as something as important as your children I'm sure he would say Uncle if he thought he wasn't capable.
As to your sisters, sounds like it could be jealousy to me.  Thats how my sister is.  Love her to death but she's very jealous in nature and a huge drama queen.  Maybe they feel that your parents are more "in tune" in your life and your kids than they are theres.
Maybe you could ask your Dad about getting a Nanny a couple days outa the week.  But if he says no he wants to do it and the Doc's say its okay then roll with it.  This is a time that your kids and him will never get back.  Some of my best memories of growing up are staying with my Papa and Nana in the summers.
Good Luck
by shelgos   90 Posts
Posted on 12/17/2008 12:53 PM
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I agree if he is still mentally able to make decisions for himself than by all means he should be able to still have a forefront position in his grand kids lives.There will always be one or two bad apples in every bunch and you shouldn't let the bad apples decide your parenting choices.
by wildheart4vr   14 Posts
Posted on 12/17/2008 11:55 AM
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I never met either of my Grandfathers and would have liked to have the opportunity to have done so.  I believe now more than ever that blood relations are the most important thing in the world.  If your father wants to take care of the kids and your mother doesn't mind or wants to do so as well, who cares what your sisters think.  Your kids will have fond memories of their Grandfather and that is something that can never be replaced.
by DJPO   599 Posts
Posted on 12/17/2008 11:55 AM
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If your mom is in the picture as well, I don't see the harm in them being there with the kids! This is something your father enjoys in life, don't take it away from him! If your mother is unable to be there when he is with the children, then yes maybe a 3rd. party (nanny) would be appropriate. But as long as he feels he can do this and wants to, let him! Quit worrying about what the others want or think, nobody knows the situation as well as you do!
by kdb   3175 Posts
Posted on 12/17/2008 11:43 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't care what my sisters thought at this point. This is between you, your father, and what you think is best for your kids. If you and your father decide that he's still ok to watch the kids for you right now, then by all means let him watch the kids. However, if you feel any sort of discomfort in having him watch the kids in his state, maybe make alternate plans. Maybe hire someone to pick the kids up from school and watch them for a couple hours, then have them dropped off at the grandparents for the rest of the evening until you pick them up. Or vice versa.

I would guess that either way, your sisters would find some way to blame you for anything. If you stop letting him watch the kids, then they would blame you for keeping his grandchildren from him. If he gets sick or something worse, then it'd be your fault too - somehow. Or, if you continue to let them watch the kids - whether you get help or not - it'd still be your fault. I don't foresee you getting out of any sort of blame with them. So - I would just stop caring what they think. Leave it between your and your father's best judgment and let that be that. You don't owe anyone an explanation for what you decide is best for your kids. It's not like you're forcing it on him; he wants to be with his grandchildren. You may need to get some sort of help - but obviously he doesn't want his grandchildren taken from him. There's nothing wrong with him being able to watch them if he's up for it, even if it's just for a few hours. Just realize your sisters' harsh, judgmental, selfish behavior is something you can't control, maybe even feel a little sorry for them that they live their lives in that state. You know the truth, and you are going continue to do right by your family as best you can. I hope this helps. hugz
by bear1821   1288 Posts
Posted on 12/17/2008 10:53 AM
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